Do ski shops actually get the edge angles right?

[Tom K.]

Come on now, you know as well as I do it's no about being happy - it's about winning the tuning threads

From my endurance racing years, while I usually managed to win the Old Dude class, there was always at least one youngster that trumped me in the overall, so I am perfectly comfortable in the roll of FIRST LOSER!

(aka second place)

(running out to see a PT now, after that little back pat above)

 

[SlideWright]

Dude....you have no idea some the crap people ski in the Cascades. Believe me, I'm from the upper midwest originally. We know crap and ice.

Yeah, but coupled with that do you have San Juan frozen coral reef moguls?

 

[SlideWright]

Come on now, you know as well as I do it's no about being happy - it's about winning the tuning threads

Is the only way to quantify the winner by who spends the most money and time for the least amount of improvement, eh? On skills, tuning or just buying new gear? All of the above

Or

 

[Dwight]

I have friend that is the opposite. Why DIY when I have a Dwight. Another person kept asking him why he doesn't do it all himself. He has the "time" and means to do it.
Plus I like getting paid in liquid spirits too. And I get to hear other skiers ask why his skis are usually faster in the glide phase and he is good guinea pig for me.

 

[CatskillSteve]

Dude....you have no idea some the crap people ski in the Cascades. Believe me, I'm from the upper midwest originally. We know crap and ice.

I heard about your Sierra cement!

 

[SlideWright]

Same here. Trades for spirits are good and having crash test dummies other than ourselves.

 

[neonorchid]

^ always!

Snowball effect, unbeknownst to you, you've opened Pandora's box at the get go!

and don't forget the essential tool(s) that may get used once again sometime in the next two decades
then there's the oh no realization that my "big box" yellow, teal and red power tools are terribly inaccurate, must replace with the green colored furniture grade tools, a realization which of course comes after wrecking an expensive stockpile of raw materials
but wait, Rockler sells parts to turn the ping-pong table into a router table because who doesn't need a router table the size of a ping-pong table!

 

[SlideWright]

True dat!..... and you should see the size of my CNC table & then there's the ginormous laser box, (4) 3d printers and wide format inkjet.

BUT, it's still way cheaper, more fun and therapeutic than paying for actual therapy.....or is it?

 

[altabrig]

I am seeing the makings of a Victorian novel - Flat Expectations



*shrug* if "good enough" flat includes longitudinal waves, twist-warp, one edge overground / base not parallel to topsheet (built in canting) then good enough, I guess?

Flatness is like mean sea level... the closer you look the less definite you can be about anything.

Ahhh. You are shaking my faith in the perfection of the base grind. Luckily I just bought a new 12" toko radial file. Surely my bases will come out perfectly flat...
I haven't been happy with my last two flat grinds....grumble.

 

[markojp]

I heard about your Sierra cement!

Cascades... Sierras are well south.

 

[Near Nyquist]

Cascades... Sierras are well south.

Gore-Tex Country

 

[SlideWright]

Ahhh. You are shaking my faith in the perfection of the base grind. Luckily I just bought a new 12" toko radial file. Surely my bases will come out perfectly flat...
I haven't been happy with my last two flat grinds....grumble.

Be sure not to bend the file while cutting the bases or edges.

The Ski Visions base planers are designed for hand base flattening and structuring. The file flattener will hold the Toko Radial file and keep it flat.

 

[altabrig]

Be sure not to bend the file while cutting the bases or edges.

The Ski Visions base planers are designed for hand base flattening and structuring. The file flattener will hold the Toko Radial file and keep it flat.

I broke off 100mm of the panzer for shaping topsheets and using it for repairs. Unless it is a trashed rocks ski I can't see myself filing down a railed or base high ski. I'll take it back to the last shop I was happy with a grind from or try a new one. I would get the ski visions planer before attempting it with file alone. I would put too much pressure and endup with a 4 degree bevel on an edge or something more awful.

 

[crgildart]

I broke off 100mm of the panzer for shaping topsheets and using it for repairs. Unless it is a trashed rocks ski I can't see myself filing down a railed or base high ski. I'll take it back to the last shop I was happy with a grind from or try a new one. I would get the ski visions planer before attempting it with file alone. I would put too much pressure and endup with a 4 degree bevel on an edge or something more awful.

 

[altabrig]

A good cobbler is hard to find. I need his contact info.

 

[Tom K.]

and don't forget the essential tool(s) that may get used once again sometime in the next two decades

OK, show of hands, who has bought a specialty tool at least once in their life, then realized at some point that you already owned it?!

Asking for a friend that recently bought a tap for mounting bindings, used it, and found the identical tap in the logical ski tool drawer when he put the new one away....

 

[scott43]

OK, show of hands, who has bought a specialty tool at least once in their life, then realized at some point that you already owned it?!

Asking for a friend that recently bought a tap for mounting bindings, used it, and found the identical tap in the logical ski tool drawer when he put the new one away....

Raises hand...

 

[Dwight]

Does a CPR mask count?

 

[scott43]

"ohhhh....Hyperglide...I thought you meant Hyperglide..."

 

[cantunamunch]

OK, show of hands, who has bought a specialty tool at least once in their life, then realized at some point that you already owned it?!

Yeh but one of the old ones has peanut butter all over it, another is somewhere in the vague proximity of the beer fridge...