It's true..we were in the gondola at Snowbasin and the locals were talking about how icy one area was..and my wife and I were like..wha??? That was nice grippy hard-pack!! The stuff we skated on at the base, now THAT was ice!I am not exaggerating here: every time at Sun Peaks when locals complain about "icy conditions" the skiers from Ontario break out in laughter.